How is Dating in EASTERN vs WESTERN EUROPE Different?

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• I'm Ukrainian living in Western Europe and I really miss these nice gestures like opening the door and helping with the heavy bags. I agree with Marina, this is something we are losing and it's sad.

  • It’s called being Russian

  • True

  • You are Russian

  • I grew up in the east as well and a few years ago I moved to Sweden for my new job and I am just so scared of "progressive" virus. If this is progressing I rather stay in the past.
    As a man I have zero interest in Swedish women, they don't even act like a woman. This equality mindset is so stupid and boring. Feminism has destroyed their society, men are bunch of wimps and girls just boss the world here. Opening a door or helping a lady is an insult in their culture.

  • Maybe you should date in Ukraine then.

• Your channel is by far one of my favourite!! I grew up in a household that was mixed between North Africa and Western Europe and I was happy to get a wider view on cultural differences and dating! If a guy pays for me at the end of the date I'm super happy and see it a huge green flag, but him not paying for me is not a red flag either as I am a very independent person and like to be able to not rely on anyone to keep myself together :)

  • Thank you!

  • Very well. What everyone must understand is that he is paying his part and you are paying for yours the signal is that he will not make any investment for the future or he just can't afford to pay for two

  • 🤨in the past when men provided for females, those females were their slaves, obey to him and no divorce imaginable. The man was even allowed to kill his wife is found cheating on him. And females worked all day too, there was no washing machines etc.

    So nowadays there is zero, really zero, reasons why men should provide for females, on the contrary is stupid to provide for females with zero benefits.

• You're killing it with these videos thank you so much for this cultural insight.

  • Yay! Thanks!

• I'm an American woman and I recently traveled to Serbia. I wasn't offended in the least by the "chivalry" displayed by men there; if anything, I found it extremely sweet and sometimes flattering (even if it doesn't mean I'm special or something, haha). I'm a very "progressive" person politically and culturally, but I didn't feel like these gestures were necessarily "regressive". It struck me as extremely caring. I think at first I felt a little guilty or like I was burdening them with my heavy bags, but I quickly got over that and embraced it. I found it extremely attractive and charming.

  • Its hard for some men to understand that and I appreciate the help when I can get it, it takes a burden off of me and i super appreciate those who step in to help.

  • Why did you go to Serbia?

  • In Serbia men still know and practice chivalry and they are not afraid to.

  • ​@@VanessaPierobon-jf9cr As a Western man, I dont like the claim that chivalry is dead in the west.
    Manners matter and if some women see this as a form of victimnizing, they should be avoided.

  • @@tobiasphilippwittlinger8753 Where did I say that chivalry is dead in the West? Please learn how to read :) And please note that I don't care whether you like my comment or not :)

• I was born in Colombia and moved to the states when I was 11. I can definitely see huge similarities between Colombian culture and eastern Europe, it's really fascinating. I personally prefer the western Europe mindset like Netherlands where everyone is more or less equal, but at the same time I really appreciate chivalry.

  • For sure! Gender roles are approached very similarly

  • Well, in all honesty. Women have generally married up in status regardless of culture and origin.

    So from the jump we're not equals. My wife who is Ukrainian acknowledges this.

    Now does is mean that in western Europe men aren't chivalrous? Not at all. But when my Latin friends moved to Europe my female friends were shocked about how the men didn't hold the door or cover the bill.

    So, if you want to be equal be prepared for equal treatment. Just my thoughts.

  • @@xpmedia8660 I said I appreciate chivalry but its not a requirement. I have been to the netherlands and I found people there fit my personality more than my own colombian culture. I still hold the door for strangers regardless of sex so I think a culture that is more equal yet kind is better in my opinion. :)

  • @@Alchemymelany the world of dating abroad is a strange one for me...and I'm married to an Eastern European. At the end of the day it's a different world out there.

  • @@Alchemymelany chilvary is male traditional gender role. This is different to (a person of any gender) being kind to people regardless of their gender. If sounds unfair to be against traditional roles for one gender yet still being in favour of it for another imo

• It's true about flowers 💐 I'm a florist and estern Europe buy way more often.😊

• Marina, when was the last time you were in Ukraine? I was in Ukraine in 2021, the year before the Russian war. I saw a lot of stylish young men in their 20s and 30s. Barbershops are on every corner. The images from your video are old. Women have also stopped dressing in mini skirts and high heels for years! And now the war has changed a lot in society. Both men and women take responsibility for their families and their country. Almost everyone donates to the country's defense or does voluntary work. Gender roles have changed greatly!

  • Actually the videos are shot recently. But I do agree that men are now putting a lot more effort into appearance (I do say that in the video), however I still think that looks for men are less importan than how well they do financially. While women may not wear heels but appearance is huge. The amount of lip fillers getting done for ex is insane

  • ​@@DatingBeyondBordersGive an example of changing gender roles? I have been in Ukraine all my time and have not seen and do not see any changes. And clothing itself cannot be considered a change in gender roles.

  • Everybody knows that the things are changing a lot during the wars. Due to the human losses many young women may remain unmarried for all their life. This will increase the competition between the women willing to have a partner and a family. In the same time as I said before the surviving men will be advantaged in finding the best partner. Indeed for a man the most important thing is the character, the values and the personality, of course the look is a big advantage. The character is less visible than the looks.

  • do you think thats a good thing ?

  • @@marvin2678 here is the former Soviet union where the women got the right to vote in 1917 and formed military combat units in 1920. Don't even think at the economy of Russia right now.

• Great and well researched and explained video 👍 Well done again! Greetings from Spain

• with eastern european women is very easy to understand the outcome of the date: if she strongly insists to split the bill, means she does not "see" you as a man for her. it means we are in friendship zone. if she does not even try to pay, or easily allow you to pay through this "ritual of who pays the bill negotiation" means she would be open to see you for another date again and perceive you as a man (does not mean that she clearly likes you, it simply means that she is open to explore in that direction)

  • In Germany you split the bill on average.
    Some women do not like to be paid for, because they see it as an obligation for sex.

  • @MetallicReg  those women need to visit psychologist. There is no any obligation for sex if someone bought you a coffee or a dinner. That s incredibly outdated way of thinking

  • Depending on where you are in the states, it is all over the place. Some women want to pay because they don't want to feel obligated to have sex or owe something or want to feel equal. Or if they don't want to see the guy again.Some women don't want to pay depending on if it it is a first date, traditional ideology of a man pays first or want a free meal. That's why I think it is important before going on a date to set expectations and not assume.

  • @@greenytaddict i always pay if i do not want to see a man again. but if i want to see him again, i prefer not to pay, not to ruin romantics

  • ​@@MetallicRegyou really have cheap women

• there is one factor which influences the statistics why such a relatively low % of women/men in Russia, Ucraine are focused on equal rights for women.
  it s because in USSR women got those rights 50-70 years earlier vs it happened in Western europe, so for current generation there it s not such a hot topic as it was 100 years ago. while for western European equal rights are relatively new thing and only available like since 50 years ago