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0:00 Intro
0:39 Gender roles
5:51 Appearance
8:45 Pressure to have a family
10:24 Chivalry and gift giving
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I'm Italian, my boyfriend is Ukrainian. I date to marry and I've noticed that in my country almost
and I've noticed that about half of the youth in my country take part in the "hookup culture" or date a lot of people in order to get "experience".
He only had a long relationship before me and he's very marriage and family oriented.
He's quite protective of me. He always holds my hand when we walk together, tells me very often that he'll make sure I'm safe and that he won't let anyone hurt me, and he likes to give me presents even if I've told him I don't need them. We'll be moving in together before the end of the year if everything goes as planned, so fingers crossed!
@@dmp1520 I have the impression that Ukrainian men still stick to traditional idea of manliness and still protect and provide while being also gallant (open doors, pass coat, hand kiss). Mine, at least, is so. Western men are more uncertain about their role.
lost how?@@MichelaRossini
Hey, I am also an Italian woman married with an Ukrainian man, we have been together for 10 years now and we have 2 kids. Wanna chat? Imo Ukr men are the best, probably also other slavic men are great. The other Europeans are handsome bur are lost.
Very fascinating facts. I loved it💙💙💙💙
regarding restaurants. My wife is Russian, and I'm from Eastern Europe. We live in the U.S. One of my wife's friends is also Russian, and she earns a very decent amount of money. She can easily afford going to mid-priced restaurants with her friends, and pay for it herself. But in dating, she always looks for men who will take her to the most expensive restaurants where she normally would not afford to go. She says, "what's the point of a man if he takes me to the same restaurants I could go to myself"? I find this very annoying. Honestly, if the only point of a man is to pay for restaurant meals, then she should probably leave men alone! I would certainly not want to do anything with a woman like that. Thankfully my own wife is not like that..
@@XanderNN people seem to forget that relationships are about companionship. Material benefits have their place but should be secondary. If the relationship is mostly about the material benefits - it's not much of a relationship..
The part about "what's the point of a man if I could do it myself" is very much spot on, I hear similar stuff from Russian women all the time. I think it's pretty appaling, as such women don't even try to hide that they view men only as a source of material benefits.
@@markrcca5329 leaving wives alone with kids often is abusive, especially if it happens frequently and is not reciprocicated. I have a Russian female friend who complains about her non Russian husband doing the same. Women are women everywhere.
@@MichelaRossini I live in the U.S., and women here have a serious problem if their husbands decide to go out with their guy-friends and leave their wives at home with the children - unless it's a special occasion. In Russian and Eastern-European culture, this is perfectly normal and no special occasion is expected. I don't know how it is in Western Europe, since I never lived there.
Western European women would certainly appreciate Eastern European men for what they are and not for what they offer, since modern western men are not romantic at all. So open a door for us and we are already half in love.
I’m colombian and I lived in the US for some time with a woman from Ukraine. We were shocked about the similarities in terms of dating in our countries even though they were so far away from each other. I used not to care about chivalry until I received my first bouquet of flowers and was treated with chivalry. It’s a beautiful feeling and it makes me feel loved and cared for. I recommend it 😁🥰
You recommend receiving flowers?
Stupid SIMPs everywhere
As an eastern European guy I can say how things are going in the eastern part of Europe:
1) No pressure to get married/have kids early or whenever
2) No pressure to have makeup
3) No pressure to dress fancy clothes
4) No competition between women in Russia (actually there are more women because they live apr. 5 years longer)
5) No pressure to pay on a date if you don't want to
6) Nobody brings flowers on a first date
7) We actually have mutual expenses when we are in relationship
8) Almost all wives are working and making contribution to family income
9) Men's appearance is actually important
10) Men are actually make cleaning, wash dishes and men are cooking
11) No pressure to be able to repair everything
12) Men don't want a housewife
13) Women don't want to be a housewife
14) People are looking for an equal partner and a soulmate
@@marvin2678look at the mail bride order to see about who is he not talking. I believe about the industrial big cities of the former communist block and Soviet union.
which countries are you talking about ?
@@DatingBeyondBorders I've visited almost all Europe, have lived in Poland for more than 6 years, but plan to relocate though😃Definitely this is my subjective opinion, saying from my friends' and my point of view. Originally I am from Minsk (Belarus). Btw I've never been married and I am 37 years old 😀
Where are you located? You may be speaking from your own city point of view (for ex. Moscow doesn't represent Russia well).
Secondly, I may be wrong but you may not have a real point of comparison. Having you say - no pressure to pay/no competition between women makes me think just that.
Have you traveled abroad extensively? Specifically to Western/Northern Europe? If so I am sure you will find these things are more true than you think. It feels to me you are comparing the Russia of now to Russia of 60-80s and if so, you are right.
And Canada is trying to recruit immigrants from Eastern Europe, from Ukraine and Russia till the Balkans. And these are the big city "work of art". I don't know if they are even interested in relationship or marriage.
I see a lot of similarities from the Mexican culture and Eastern European. I live in Alaska where we had record-breaking snowfall. I was gone during the storms and returned to a snow mound that was my car. I started to shovel thinking it would be a 1 to 2 hour task, thank God my Mexican-American neighbor came out and jumped in right away to help. ❤
@@DatingBeyondBorders AFAIK, Mexican girls are into American and Western European guys. Whereas Mexican guys are only into Eastern European girls (dunno on Asian girls). Pity that the other way around from both sides as I mentioned, doesn't exist.
@@DatingBeyondBorders As a Mexican-American guy, I found some striking similarities in culture in Poland and Ukraine. I thought, "Finally, people who "get" it!" As for the snow mound, yeah, it's just a cultural norm to jump in and help. Car breaks down? Guys will jump in to help you push it, etc. It's somehow... just wrong... to ignore things like that. Haha.
@@user-ep9mw9kt2u Not sure. There were several American guys that walked by and said a polite hello in passing but did not offer to help.
That was just a common friendly help that has nothing to do with gender roles)
Yes! This is why I know so many Ukrainian and Russian girls in a relationship with Mexican guys (not vice versa though)
Wonderful video! Very well done and fully agreed with you.
Thanks!
Great video, there is nothing like a perfect marriage or relationship, I learnt that in everything there is always a solution, 5 years ago I and my wife divorced because we were having some difficulties in our marriage but we are back together ,it was a really bad phase but we got through it
Thank you for this valuable information, i just looked her up now online. impressive.
its always difficult to let someone you love go, but in my case I had the help of a spiritual adviser who saved my marriage from collapsing her name is SHELLY RENEE WHITE.
Personally, as a Chinese-Canadian, I've seen traditions and i've seen progressiveness. That's ok. what i hate on both sides is hypocrisy. Want gender roles? Don't get mad when women want you to uphold your end when they do. (ie cook for you etc) Same with women. If men are paying for you, stop scoffing when he asks what you bring to the table.
On the flip, if you call yourself a progressive women, stop asking for men to pay. If you are a man who is 'progressive' and think men shouldn't pay, stop asking women to cook/clean for you.
@@eedragonr respect from me yeah, respect from society i dont know.
@@montypython4ever I think that you got it right. And she doesn't deserve a lot of social respect and gratitude for all that?
Im very happy beeing in a relationship that because she is the one that earns most of us shee Pays when we go out and I Pay otherwise, she does most of the house work because she see s Washing and cooking as her job. Thats the best of bouth worlds. When I get a job where I earn more, she of cause expects Me to Pay more. And when we have kids she wants to stay home for the first 3 years.
One will do an investment if it is interested in the other for the future. On the other side the things are more clear.
Good point I see it as you, hypocrisy in any context is so annoying, however my impression is that it is a big difference in Western Europe and North America.
In the cities and metropoles of WE most people are on the left side of the political spectrum, some, as myself, are not but clearly a minority.
To be progressive or conservative has more to do on how someone votes rather than gender roles.
To be an excellent cook is a highly masculine trade and something to be proud of.
To bake on the other hand is highly feminim and absolutely adorable thus cherished by all of society.
The costs of living in the cities force both parents into the workplace anyway, so there are no stay at home mumes.
Family obligations are shared because they have to, unless one is a two digit millionaire.
I consider myselve on the right side of the political spectrum not because I want to be a provider, why should I work my a** off whilst my women is taking ,,care,, of the kids.
Translation; have a walk in the park on a sunny monday afternoon and happily smoking while doing so...heck that (!), she has to work as I do and I want to spend time with the kids as much as she does.
I am right wing because I stand for the nation, a free market economy, a small government and because I will go to war in order to protect but also to conquer.
I also dont shame women for a high body count, except when it is a result of low self esteem, and dont expect them to be prude with their clothes.
I only like cheeky and sexy women but they have to be cool and should not loose their nerves if things dont go as they want to.
I do get your point though and I agree with you, just wanted to add some stuff:)
As a western European girl in a relationship with an eastern European girl, I can't agree more with you about the "commitment" in a relationship when you date which is very strong in eastern Europe. When I had dating experiences in my country (France) I would ask my date what are they looking for after a couple of dates. While in Hungary it was more "of course it's for serious what are you insinuating?" Also the whole concept of bounding with someone, true love to contract something together is waaaay stronger there. Like having a couple of relationships and traveling for example or having fun is way less commun.
Exactly...