Ukrainian Girl is Shocked At Dating Germans 🇺🇦🇩🇪
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Had the same experience last year with Ukrainian and I am french :
French man usually invite the girl on first date and even more but when in a relationship the girl is also expected to invite back ( we don’t split the bill ) otherwise we take it as ungrateful and poor maneers
French Men are also known as some of the most Effeminate Men in the world. It is also an Effeminate Culture.
God that’s so tragic for French women lol
That’s why I like German men 💪 only prostitutes are paid
When in Rome…. when you are living in a different country it’s best to follow their customs….so choose your country wisely 🙂
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I was actually gonna say the same thing
As if everyone could just “choose” the country they’re going to when running from a war.
Naaah you make exceptions for Slavic girls. They deserve it
Germany is super diverse. She can just look for guys who come from a similar culture, what she did
I am with the guy. He did the right Thing
Not “the right thing”. Some cultures offer the man pays first, some don’t. Nothing wrong with what she said
@@genabrianna7267 having a culture doesn’t mean the principles of It are right in 2023 . If in My culture it’s a dishonour if My daughter marries an occidental man, It doesn’t mean it’s right. If in My culture women go to jail if they sing or they have to get killed if they don’t cover their head, It doesn’t mean it’s right. Having a culture doesn’t mean you can’t evolve and start thinking with your own brain/instinct/Heart . If all mankind stayed firm in his culture and did let It define his life, than there would not be the progress. Anyways, to me he did the right Thing. If you realize you have incompatible ideas you gotta have the freedom to breakup
I get that, but I’m not talking about it in such an extreme sense. I’m talking simply roles in relationships in European countries. For instance, if in a culture where the woman is expected to bear children, stay at home and even possibly work, it shouldn’t seem that crazy for a man to pay for her meal or provide in other matters for that sense. I bring it up because that may most likely be the culture in Ukraine as apposed to Germany where women are expected to take on both roles and end up doing more & sacrificing then their male counterpart. That’s all. To say the German man is “right” could be seen as “wrong” in Ukrainian culture. Matter of opinion
@@genabrianna7267 the problem Is not paying the meal. The meal it’s Just 1% of the things which some women expect to be payed from a man . There are women who expect the man to pay the holidays, to pay for groceries, to pay for the rent. It’s wrong . Luckily there are still many women Who like even Just once in a while to reciprocate what a man Is doing for them and they are appreciative and don’t expect the man to Always take care of these things , taking It for granted. PS: and I talk as a man Who believes in chivalry and puts it into practice everyday.
You are wrong to think it’s the women’s fault in this case. My (Russian) husband literally feels terrible when I pay. Even when I’m enthusiastic and want to. Men from these cultures make it a big part of their identity to cover and protect their woman in all cases.
I dated an Ukrainian girl just like this and we communicated our cultural differences in advance. She expected me to be traditional: pay for dinners, open doors, etc. However she refused to be traditional herself and that’s where things started to go downhill. Not all people are like this though, but you learn to read the signs. Some lessons have to be suffered, they can’t be learned.
I also was in the same situation with an Ukrainian girl. She wanted to be traditional but with zero accountability.
Totally with you on that matter.
Can I ask you for a couple examples please? I’m overly invested in your comment 😮what were the traditional roles she ingored?
@@arman4chok The house was not taken care off (zero initiative to do any form of cleaning or wash clothes), not wanting to eat together like a family, accepting invitations from other thirsty guys to do activities without being able to say no/set boundaries, etc. Her parents, however, lived with traditional roles: her father worked and provided while her mother took care of the home. The price to pay for this lifestyle was of course financial hardship because in Ukrainian cities life is getting too expensive for families to survive on a single income (same as it already happens in many other western countries).
@@Ashp00l I’m curious. Maybe girls think that the appearance is a collateral. Like they already did too much. Thus you have to prove to her…crazy…especially considering she does not offer psychological innocence or any other means to make your unity special… Anyways I think you dodged a bullet right there. This kind of a setup is very dangerous to build anything upon. Congrats.
It depends where r u from mate😂 TRUST me with Eastern European women,THIS plays a huge role
If you like the Germans you will love the Dutch 😂
🙄🙄🙄 the men here oh god
I can’t stand Germans 🤣🤣🤣
I’m Dutch and have a Ukrainian girlfriend
@@robox91Do you guys split everything? Or do you pay?
@@K55365 split
Currently dating a Ukrainian girl and lemme tell you…..they are as Conservative as they come! Which sounds bad, but every time I came over to her house, she had food ready on the table waiting on me. She even washed my clothes! And being from America ngl I felt outta place, but I started partaking into a more traditional role and so far its been working out.
@jessiekim1886 both, but that’s why you jump in and also assist with laundry day, don’t ask questions just start doing Housework as well, if you sit down and watch TV while they’re doing chores you’re sure to get cussed at so just stay quiet and work
@jessiekim1886 and also pay for everything don’t be cheap and try to go 50 50
@@jessiekim1886 not Ukranian here, but Eastern European/American. If I pay for the dates, her nails, hairdresser etc, the least I expect is my girlfriend to take care of cooking, laundry and cleaning. My ex gf used to come over my house while I was at university, and by the time I came home, she waited me at the door, helping me with my coat, dinner on the table etc. And we’ve been only dating for 3 months at that point. This is pretty common in Eastern Europe, Asia and Latin America. Things are more traditional here luckily. I’m from the USA but grew up in Hungary, and I used to spend my summers in the states, and girls over there forgot how to be a woman while expecting me to be a traditional man. I felt used and not appreciated. You can not demand husband treatment while not giving wife behaviour
@@edwinprado5620wait so you pay everything but she does only 50 percent of the household Work?
How did you adjust to your conservative tradional gender roles ? A Woman expectimg me to pay was already a shock for me ahah
She should live in her culture and find men in her own country.
I mean people in kosovo are not very developed so it kinda fits her perfectly
@@tretatorta8000 bit ignorant of you to say.
The men are a little busy at the moment.
@@tretatorta8000and tell me please what does it mean to be developed …. hahhaa man that called themself women amd vice versa,people that called themself they,no family no roots thats so progrwsive dont be fulled man …. completly dekoinc wake up eurooope
@@thefractured_butwhole Dying “traditionally” I guess
I understand the girl and the guy. She expects a man to pay for the restaurant because it is supposed to be a romantic gesture from him, which she will retribute in other ways (cooking at home, paying for cinema, offering gifts… On the other hand, the guy thinks paying for the restaurant always seems like being exploited. Neither of them is wrong, it’s just a cultural shock.
and thats the reason divorce rate in western europe is high
@@putrapratama-sq8hudivorce rate in Germany is not very high. It’s not even half of the rate of countries like Russia, Kazakhstan and… Ukraine.
There’s many more divorces in Eastern Europe than in Western Europe actually.
@@helgaioannidis9365not true at all ,much more divorce in west
@@SRBOMBONICA86 look up the statistics and you will be surprised.
@@helgaioannidis9365 your western statistics are not to be trusted 😊
I´d rather to be all alone than to hang out with this kind of women
I have dated Swedish and Norwegian women. When I took them to the most expensive restaurants in the city for dinner. They never offered to split the bill 50/50. Because you know why? Because I’m rich!
Are you all alone?
@@vannhatvo5925 if you wanna be used then more power to you.
🤣 I could never be attracted to a women like this.
I like my women to be a real, actual women … strong and confident .. like me.
Men deliberately going after women like this in the west never know what a real equal partner is like.
I don’t want a princess who refuses to get dirty or do anything hard that cares nothing you but what you provide.
Grow up men and women
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It depends if she will be traditional too. If she cooks and cares for you at home, treats you like a traditional man, then it’s a fair trade. If she just wants you to be traditional and not herself, then it’s just bad character.
Let’s just respect differences in culture and try to compromise when we can. Personally, I’m also a traditional woman, and in my culture, there’s nothing wrong abt the man paying. But I also split the bill or even treat my bf to snacks when I can. It’s just a matter of compromise.
“In my culture”… That better include making dinner and cleaning the house also
Lol I’m dating a German, I’m earning he’s better in cleaning, he’s also studying so I’m paying him if I want him to do something with me. This is pure logic.
Ironically all if my girlfriends are bit messy and their men are cleaning. And not working or occasionally working.
My friends are all career dominant women with strong careers, non of us likes men who are same as us, we like masculine men, that often doesn’t come with high income, more often with authority issues, which me and my girlfriends don’t.
I believe that gender roles should be adjusted to one’s character. Me and my girlfriends are arguably not typical women, typical roles should not be expected.
Because he paid a dinner? I hope they have dinner in a very fancy restaurant EVERY DAY then.
They do, tbh
It does!
dinner and cleaning house is too much for dinner and nails. maybe he can pays her rent depts and nails etc so she can cook and clean
German woman here. The German man was absolutely correct in expecting the woman to share the expenses. Women in Germany work and have their own money. Men in Germany cook,clean the house, wash clothes. We’re equals and we share all tasks not according to gender, but to skill and interests. My husband likes doing the dishes, I like repairing plumbing and furniture. He like driving the car, I like grocery shopping, he likes ironing, I like washing the clothes and making the beds.
Our culture promotes freedom of choice and equal rights and tasks.
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@@tanja1102 I didn’t write that people share the chores 50:50. I wrote chores are shared based on skills and preferences, not on gender.
Often in Germany the women only work part time and then do the bigger part of the chores at home.
From a German point if view there’s space for improvement when it comes to equal share of the workload, if you look at other countries German men do a lot in the household. In Italy e.g. it’s pretty common that both partners work full-time and the woman does all the chores. This seems to be common also in the USA. And this is not the case in Germany. You will find hardly any German man who thinks a man shouldn’t iron or men should not clean the house, while in other countries that’s the mindset.
@@helgaioannidis9365in Italy a lot of women don’t work (mostly because of lack of jobs though). So if German women work part time and the do most chores, men have to pay most of the things.
@@MichelaRossini exactly
I swear western European women are so damned brained washed it’s sad. Btw these two were not living together, sp you’d expect her to PAY for the privileged of this guy maybe washing the dishessome day.
One of the reasons I left Ukraine many years ago. Can’t believe this attitude is still so common and not just an old stereotype
100% the right attitude. Western Europe is fucked up
@@ArgenswissThank you for your opinion. 🤦♀
@@marynayarmolenko it’s s fact
Ukraine is located in Eastern Europe?
@@Argenswissdid you read the comment above where one girl explains how it works in Germany? I dont see a problem with that
Comes to Germany as a guest gets paid everything from the gov but expects the locals to adapt to her culture. That’s called entitlement.
That is not the story of everyone.
@@Nanshashakadi that’s her story and the story of the other ten Ukrainian girls that I know who are among the Ukrainians that are flooding my city.
@@SteveSteve7590-di2dn are you ok? She does not have to adapt. She can date a man she likes and accepts to do things the way she likes. She is dating a man from Kosovo now. Don’t worry.
@@julianasilva6946 She is saying my culture but she moves to another culture without wanting to adapt? One can show some gratitude to the country receiving you by adjusting a little bit.
As an African man working a good job, it doesn’t matter I pay the bills my wife keeps her money. In Islam women can contribute to family sustainance voluntarly. It’s my duty as a man to do it.
I am Ukrainian man and i have Ukrainian wife, we are traditional family. I do all the “money stuff”, like buy a house, buy a car, pay for everything. On other side she takes care of the home itself, kids, cooking, cleaning, raising the kids, takes them to school and etc. Also my work in 4 month on work (i’m a seaman so we can afford good life only on money that i earn) 4 month vacation. So that 4 month that i am on work she handles 100% of all “home business” .For me this is more than okay, we have been together more than 20 years, from school.
I understand you want be trad but you have to take care childs too. whats difference brats with this then?
but a woman gives birth to a child and loses career and other opportunities during pregnancy.
I was once invited by a german person out for drinks to celebrate his birthday. To my surprise, I had to pay my drink.
I mean yeah? Or you could pay for his drink since it was his birthday? Or was it a party? A party is usually paid for by the person having their birthday but one on one you should pay for the guy who has his birthday
@@melanieg.9092 I mean no? Or he could sippy not invite. Distorted german logic 🤷🏻♂️
@@bsl025it’s his birthday the least you could do is buy him a drink that’s the bare minimum
Very untypical in Germany. Who has birthday pays. Pays the cake he brings to work, he pays if he invites for eating out or some drinks.
As a woman, we can’t ask for equality and then expect men to pay for everything for us. Be independent, be money smart, don’t rely on anyone. Ever! Equality goes both ways.
Maybe she doesn’t expect equality
And when they don’t pay for you they have sex with you then move on to the next one and you’re stuck suing for minimal child support if you get pregnant. Equal rights does not mean men and women are the same.
Have you heard of contraception?
@@SandiBrava There’s still a risk plus there is no contraception without symptoms
@@deezed6478That sounds like you want to get paid for having sex with someone. If you feel like that you shouldn’t have sex with this person in the first place. Prostitution is 100 percent legal in Germany, so if the guy just wanted fuck2pay, he would go to a prostitute since he knows what he gets.
By the way, vaginal penetration is not the only form of sex.
I was once at a party where I was next to a Russian woman and a german guy. At some point she handed him the bottle of vodka with an annoyed sound and told him, in Russia men are required to treat women like a princess and that means, it’s his responsibility to make sure her glass is always full 😂
She’s dating. All the males in her family are fighting for their country. Theres equality for you.