Are Dutch the CHEAPEST Europeans?!
Have you ever heard of the term "Going Dutch?" Did you know how it originated? I went to the country where the term originated from – the Netherlands to ask the Dutchies themselves what they think about "Going Dutch", the Tikkie culture, who actually pays on the first date and is it common to send out Tikkies for a dinner party at your own house?
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0:00 What is "Going Dutch"?
0:49 What is "Going Dutch" according to Dutchies?
2:55 Are Dutch cheaper than Germans and Nordics?
3:29 Do the Dutch actually "Go Dutch"?
6:00 Were did "Going Dutch" originate from?
7:13 The Tikkie
7:39 Reddit Posts about the Smallest Tikkie Ever Sent
9:27 What is the smallest Tikkie that Dutchies send out or receive?
11:40 Why are Dutch considered "the cheapest"?
12:09 Do Dutch send Tikkie for dinner parties?
15:25 Conclusion
CREW:
Marina Iakovleva (directing)
Sahra Abreu (video)
Oleh Voitovych (editing)
I would love to see other countries from different parts of the world would react to “Go Dutch” in their respective countries π , especially the women
yesss!
Spain, for example
How about ‘going greek’
@@mikaleppakoski5113 what was your experience with a Greek?
This would be interesting actually
Always love your videos….thanks a tonnes. You doing awesome job…π
this is also very common in austria – to split the bill when you are out (on date ore just wth. friends), and waiters ask when they bring your bill if you are paying “together or separate. and tbh it works perfectly and i think it is very fair and relaxed
Yes the only stressful part was to tip. We needed to think quickly on how much and say a number back to the unfriendly waiter. Luckily Austrians are very nice (except when working as waiters), and I always handed them my money and asked them to please tip, because I sure canβt think that quickly on backward numbers π
hahah! yes, i think there is even a saying (for people who are from Vienna at least), that you know you are home, when waiters are unfriendlyπ π. but, i think they get more grumpy then really unfriendly and we are all used to it here. and also you can be grumpy back, and then in the end you become like sort of friends. it is hard to explainπ π . but i donΒ΄t think the tipping is as rigorous as in e.g. usa; there is not exact percentage you have to tip a waiter, but people always usually do (like, if it is a small order, we “round it up”, and if it is a bigger order then we go into procentages)
@@klimtkahlo only in Vienna, the service in tirol (west austria) is fantastic.
Zusammen oder getrennt? π¬
it does make sense though, that something stereotypical for a country is not known in that country, because there itΒ΄s normal
My ex is from NL and he’s the cheapest guy I’ve ever dated. I was staying over his place and we went to supermarket together. He wanted to get jam for us to share but he made me pay for it. I only had two spoons and the rest of the jam sit in his fridge…
I wonder why he is your ex
Did you send him a Tikkie for the unused jam ?
@@ianandrews6890 omg I should have lol
πhahah this is hilarious! Well, in Turkey , where I am originally from, we donβt often split the bill like people from. The Netherlands, Germany,etc do. But when this happens so , we say βAlman hesabΔ±β or Alman usΓΌlΓΌ which means Splitting the bill like Germans. This is the first time Iβve heard of this term. Personally it makes sense to me that the first time the man pays but the other times the woman shares the pay or pays the whole price. I wouldnβt mind.
I watched this and the previous video, and it explains my grandfather (whose own father (my great-grandfather) emigrated from the Netherlands to the USA at 19 years old) through and through. Cheapest man Iβve ever known and now I finally understand why π
Yes we have a grocery mentality. Many people read the prices in the supermarket and may even go to another supermarket because of certain price offers.
Is “going Dutch” for you?
If my Dutch boyfriend “went Dutch” on me on our first date, we would not have had a second date. I am Serbian, by the way. I feel it would be the same for the nationals from many Mediterranean and Balkan countries as well.
βββ@@worldcitizen677
not necessarily… my mother is of Georgian descent my dad is Persian but my street nickname is ROBOT… I want to have a girl without emotions likewise… are Dutch robots? Well unfortunately basically not… AS THEY SAY IN GERMANY HARTE SCHALE WEICHER KERN. Hard skin but soft core…
no i don’t think so
ββ@@worldcitizen677 Portuguese and Spanish go 50/50.
Never went dutch on a date. Only with a big group one pays for themselves.
In the Philippines, we do not use “going Dutch” but we use KKB or “kanya kanyang bayad” (kanya kanyang for “each” and bayad for “pay), which shares the similar concept as “going Dutch” where everyone is expected to pay for what they ordered.
These conditions apply to KKB (based on my observations, please feel free to correct me):
– Whenever someone invites us to join, either we ask if [the activity (eg. group meal)] is KKB or the one who invited will pay for the entire bill (otherwise called as “Libre” or “free”). In this way, expectations can be set for whether the “libre” means “unlimited” or “has a cap” (the one who will pay will mention the limit) and those who are invited are free to refuse/participate.
– KKB doesn’t mean “your meal is only your meal.” Filipinos love to share and what’s in my plate can still be shared even if I am paying for it and whatever is in someone’s plate can be shared too. However, it’s still respectful to ask for that person’s permission especially when the food in the plate is “quite interesting.”
All accurate,Filipino here. Today, We use Gcash, Maya, or banking apps to transfer our share.
Great job MarinaβI can see how much effort was put into this! I’ve come to appreciate “going Dutch” because it’s just easy and efficientβit saves a lot of time and headaches because there’s no expectation of “who will pay?” Because I also come from an Asian family, and we LITERALLY FIGHT to pay the bill (which can be a funny scene in itself)βbut it does create expectations of who pays next time and can sometimes create conflict (“Oh but we paid for them last time, and they should pay this time”)
But of course, I still think it’s a nice, universal human gesture to offer to pay for others (or to serve) depending on the occasion!
It was a fun day with great memoriesβI learned a lot! Keep it up!
Thanks David! Was a fun day filming this π
It’s also easy. For example, meeting with cousins and neices about ten in total to a restaurant. That would be a huge bill for one person especially if they have a lower salary. That may cause some tension. When splitting the bill we avoid that tension.
I would split on first dates but not with friends is the correct answer here
Iβm Dutch and Iβve never send a tikkie in my life. Thatβs a teenager thing, because theyβre always broke π By the way, Iβve also never been to a party where I had to bring food or received any tikkies? This is greatly exaggerated, sounds like itβs about a totally different country than I know all my life. Must be a generation thing.
you are so direct
I’ll share a bit about my country Croatia, if anyone is interesting in reading. if you are invited to someone’s house for a dinner you can’t just show up without bringing anything, if it is a kid’s birthday or some kind of special event most people bring money in a little envelope and a card with something nice written along with the gift. That means often they essentially pay (or split the bill) the amount of money you had spend on the food and hosting for them. If it isn’t a special event people usually bring at least something like a bottle of wine, or some sweets or flowers or other alcohol etc. if you are a high school kid or a university student out in a club or at someone’s place or anywhere out drinking, usually everybody brings their own drinks. host will provide some alcohol an maybe some snacks but almost always you will bring whatever you plan on drinking or eating for yourself and then people of course share it afterwards, but generally everyone is mostly poor at that age so you aren’t in a position to treat others. when you start earning and later in life we keep a count- one person pays for the round and then someone else pays for the round and so on that way essentially everyone paid for themselves just in a more complicated way. and if i pay for one coffee date with a friend they will pay for the next one. generally that’s how it works we try to be fair and we also don’t like to feel like we owe others money so everyone is constantly trying to pay for other people’s food and drinks. there is even a funny ritual in which we fight over the bill and whoever is the most stubborn pays and then the other person pays next time and again after the same funny fighting ritual. it is just our way of showing we like this other person and we want to be polite, but no one is expected to pay all the time for everything. also there are some very generous people who pay for everyone all the time and I feel like most people don’t like it bc they start feeling like they owe them. so the same idea is there of not wanting to owe anyone anything, we are just less direct about it unfortunately.
That’s very similar to the Netherlands, except we don’t have a ritual where we fight over the bill, and we may have fewer people who pay for everything
@@infj4w511 that is also what I noticed. Everyone says southern countries never split the bill, everyone is very generous etc, and that may be true if you are a tourist, or visiting a friend people will likely pay for you since you are a guest and that is how you show hospitability. But among locals we also keep check we are not just running around paying for everyones stuff all the time, there is an order to it although it doesn’t look like that from outside. And when you do the math it is actually the same basic principle- don’t use other people’s generosity and don’t owe money to other people.
In Turkey when we split, we was say “Alman usulΓΌ” which translates to “German way”.
That is what the term going Dutch actually referred to back in the day in the US. It was a thing claimed to being Deutsch but since they don’t know the difference it became a Dutch thing…and π€ I don’t mind paying for myself, so call it Deutsch or Dutch I don’t mind
I would rather set myself on fire than ask someone I invited to my house for their share of the meal.
every balkan person is throwing up at the idea lol
β@@vhilofaye1618hi sorry I’m confused, do you mean “throw up” at the ridiculous dutch custom or to the commenter above??
Are you a bit crispy, then? π
β@@reichen666 Maybe Balkan people just like to throw up?
It happened to me once. A friend that had many dinners and snacks at my house, asked to pay when I ate at his place once. Paid and never ate there again.
As a Dutch student: I get a Tikkie if I’m in a group of people, and 1 of us buys beer/Mc Donald’s/etc. However, there is an exception. In some cases you know you’ll switch turns in paying. Fe, in my student’s alliance, we pay for each other’s beer. Everyone does this, so it’s no issue to do it for anyone else. This same concept applies when going out with a friend group or going on dates with someone you like.
If you eat at someone else’s place (for dinner or a small party) and you don’t pay for dinner, this should imply that they’ll be welcome to you someday in the same manner. Since visiting peers for dinner doesn’t happen that regularly, you may still never end up equalizing it, so therefore it would be best to bring something like dessert or whine with you to such a thing.
Ig, we definitely hate debt, and to us every time you spend money on something for sb else, this counts as debt. Usually, this system works very well. However, there are some difficult situations. Fe, you may go out with friends, expecting everyone to pay for everyone’s drinks. However, afterwards it becomes clear to sb that they’ve paid for many more drinks than the others. In that case, they may still end up splitting the bill/sending a payment request, while this wasn’t expected. This same thing may happen if one expects the date to go well, but in the end it becomes clear there won’t be any next date to compensate. In another scenario, you might find that 1 person spends more money on dinners/parties/etc. when hosting than the other. Fe, I used to live with my landlord, who insisted on sharing meals weekly. She’d make meals I couldn’t afford as a student, while I’d make cheap meals that didn’t meet her desires. Now, she insisted on splitting the bill, while to me it would have been fair not to split. (I left that situation quite soon, though. I definitely don’t recommend any housing situation that involves shared space with your landlord, unless the alternative is either homelessness or living with your parents.)
It also depends from one person/community to the other, though. My landlord was quite old and had money, but she’d always find ways to first offer me something (cleaning supplies, washing machine use, a week earlier access to the room, etc), and then end up requesting money for it afterwards. On the other hand, it might be easier to see this as a stereotype for cheap landlords than for Dutch people, ig. I don’t think my parents ever really ask any money back from anyone: they just don’t spend it extravagantly, and they have money, so ig they never really have to. My grandparents even pay for the big restaurant dinner with the entire family, but that’s just because they’re rich, and they’re also the parents. I personally prefer feeling like I spend more on others than feeling like I owe people, but I also know students who seem to do everything in their power to get every free beer or good deal out of others, even if those others are poorer students in debt.
Usually the locals can spot the Dutch tourists because they tend to spend less than other Europeans when they go on holidays. Dutch holiday makers also love their caravans and campers so during the summer, you’ll see a lot of them on the motorways.
and they bring everything from home. Bread, Potatoes, Beer. You name it.
*vacation
**Highway
I’m Dutch and I’m really – what you call – cheap. I’m not splitting bills. I want my own bill, so there’s no danger I have to pay (a part of) the stuff other people ordered.
I dated a girl from the Netherlands while at school in the USA. Also met quite a few Dutch women on vacation in Spain…….. When we had our first date, she wanted that we split the bill. I insisted I would pay. After a while she agreed. Than few days later she surprised me with a nice dinner she cooked because I paid the bill. Fantastic woman…. Other Dutch women I met impressed me too in various ways. They are not cheap at all, at least in my experience.
Interesting fact; you mentioned in your video at 6:23 that people couldn’t distinguish between Dutch and Deutsch, in TΓΌrkiye we don’t use “go Dutch” instead there is a phrase “go German” or in native “Alman usulΓΌ” meaning the “split the bill equally”