The Real Truth About Dating in Greece (Toxic Relationships, Mama’s Boys, Late Marriages)
What is the Greek dating scene really like? Are Greek men momma's boys? Why do Greeks marry later than Americans? We hit the streets of Athens to ask foreigners and locals about all things dating related in Greece.
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0:00 Intro
0:28 What is the Greek dating scene like?
4:55 What is dating Greek women like?
5:45 What is dating Greek men like?
6:18 Does family play a role in Greek dating?
7:40 Are Greek men mama's boys?
11:40 Why are Greek men mama's boys?
12:43 Why do Greeks marry later in life?
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Athens, Greece
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As toretto usually says “Family is everything” and the men of Greece seems to like that
I mean, the economy is a huge part of the “mama’s boys” phenomenon. What would you do if the rent is 500€ ( best case in Athens ) and your wage is 850€, having to buy some of the most expensive products in the eu?
I have met men who are well off financially, one of them a lawyer, the other two were working in their family business and were making owner’s money… yet they lived with their family. I remember out on a date, 32 year old man, was telling me how he got his mama a gift card for a spa as a thank you for getting tired for them. I mean, it is not a bad idea to do it so you can put money on the side but when your day involves organizing your day with your mother, things are getting serious.
Re rent vs income: similar situation is in Vancouver, BC.
Some people earn
C$ 3,000/month & the rent is C$2,500-3,000.
@ it’s really difficult to convey the realty we experience to someone that is not living in a country in economic crisis, but let me try.
According to google, the average rent in Vancouver for a one bedroom apartment is about 2500$/month, and average spending on food is about 600$/month, that, with an average salary amounting to 5900$/month. That leaves you with an average net amount of 2800$(47% of the original salary) to live and pay for all that you need.
In Athens ( where half of Greeks live), the average monthly rent for one bedroom apartment is 700 € and food spending is about 271 € euros, whereas the average salary is 1200 €. This leaves you with a monthly 229 € ( 19% of the original salary ) to live and pay the bills. Then, take also into account youth unemployment percentages ( about 31% for people under 30 because of lack of jobs) and you will get a hint for the situation here.
@@MsMinoula Although I know of many people like the ones you describe, I also know of many lawyers that have been living on their own since they started their careers ( chances being 50/50 they live by them selves ) . I am not telling you that this phenomenon exists only because of economic reasons, but for most young people ( because MOST people don’t make this kind of money ) it is simply unaffordable (not to say economically unimaginable) to live by themselves for the reasons I explain in a recent comment.
As a 28year old greek guy I can say that I live with my mother for 2 reasons 😂 1of I love mom’s cooking..😂 2 of all I’m single for a long time,so why waste money for rent and just being alone to an apartment?? At least we both have company ❤❤😂
Unfortunately , hellenic family structual norms tend to export their intrusion in relationships . Wanting the best for their family is one thing but not at the cost of a quick or slow destruction of it . The U.S is not suited to this irritations family and parental involvement after a certain age and yet it still occurs here . They in your videos blame males but the same occurs with females and their modeling family’s .
When family values and traditions are declining across the West, please stay strong and protect your own values. There must be something worth cherishing in Greek families. Don’t lose your traditions because they are considered weird and laughable in the West. Stay strong and never get affected my Greek brothers and sisters💪🇬🇷
Like your videos!
Do a video of international dating at EDM festivals and clubs or at Ibiza Thanx
THAT i’ll tune in for!!
It would be a 15 sec video. Just have drugs
@@bigworm3886 hahaha funny..
No problem of being mama’s boy, some people even have their mom’s passed away! Every call from mom is a blessing ❤
Well Greek women when you become mothers don’t raise your sons to be ‘mama’s boys’ than. Greek ladies complain about that but they are complacent in it as well. Just raise your boys a little differently. I’m Greek man and I am certainly not like that. My mother did not raise me like that. Of course not all Greek men and women are like this. Just a general thing.
@@Alex-s-m2p totally agree…for ex. it’s very similar with Serbs
@TT-ef8sq Yep 👍
My dude we speak for the Greece of the late 90s and early 00s, once a woman becomes a mother, the perception of everyone of her is being a mother. The only validation they receive is for being good mothers. To an individual level, it is impossible to go through a relationship that requires so much of you mentally and physically without any validation. The greek culture due to patriarchy has not developed the idea of family boundaries and individual relationships beyond the figures of the family. With the only exception of the man of the family that he is both a man and a father, but beyond that not even grandparents have the privilege to escape their family roles.
Nowadays things are relatively different but patriarchy still exists to a much lesser degree, yet the expectations of the family models are almost untouched.
Canadian guys be.. like” Wanna see the fish i just caught or the Bear i just shot” I’m a guy. I won’t have anything to do with a Mamma’s girl.. or someone never left home.. i hear that i’m gone.
7:10 that aint no lie.
Most of conclusions and concerns apply also to Poland, I have to say. We’re also a very patriarchal society, as Greeks. And no wonder – nesting rate of 43.2% according to your stats from 2014(?). According to Eurostat 2020 – 60% in Poland, 73% Greece, 9% Norway.
Yeah, accomodation prices are crazy now, it’s a huge problem, but – it doesn’t mean that person in age of 29 or 24 have to be childish. It’s a choice, not a financial issue. You can live with parents and be emotionally grown up person, who takes equal responsibility over 50 or 33% of houseworks and expenses. On the other hand – leaving family home before age of 25 doesn’t mean a person is emotionally grown up 😉
In Poland it starts to be discussed publically. There is a podcast “po dorosłemu” made by Joanna Flis, about being adult (emotionally grown up, not only older than 18). In contrast to the “inner child” culture, which is a caricature now. Then she wrote a book about it at the same title. And last weeks another book wrote by E. Michalik and T. Sobierajski “Dojrzałość. Jak odnaleźć się w kulturze zdziecinnienia”. About childish behaviour of adult people in a very wide perspective: from relations to politics and economy. Because older generations, including baby boomers, are not that emotionally grown up too – let’s be honest. Those parents who treats their adult children like a toddler, have also a problem, and don’t take a part of their responsibility. We all, as a “western world” society, have problems with adulthood, emotional maturity, taking responsibilities, but different generations in a different way.
Nice video but a double standard exists especially for women and what others would say about them. I would of liked to have heard more from the Greek women regarding relationships and dating though.
Why the reupload?
Now I’m curious…
when do greek women get out of their parents home?
Never..even when they get married they stay all together at the same household
@@sweetgirl62 Mama´s girls?
Unfortunately Greek women are even supposed to look after both their parents and their husband parents we are slaves in the family
Somehow you got the guys with the worst English accent possible 🤣
Didn’t expect this old classic commercial but it’s gold 🤣
Now, about us living with our parents, it is true, but the reason is mostly financial, as it was mentioned. We can’t afford to rent, let alone buy a house, we barely have paying jobs most of us and the money is barely enough for living. And that applies to us, women too, not just men. Which is a reason for late marriage as well, plus we want to be mature enough and certain to take such a big step and finished with our studies, have a job and experiences too.
As for Greeks being “μαμάκιας” (mama’s boy), well, here is the thing. This is a huge red flag for the Greek girls. Because here being a mama’s boy is different than in most Western cultures. Like…the bar here is higher to call someone mama’s boy, as being close to the family is considered normal. So, if a Greek calls someone mama’s boy, it means the situation is out of control. 100% dependency and clinginess to mama. Anything less than that is pretty normal here. As we see it, as long as it’s in a healthy way, it’s not a bad thing to have good relationship and be close to your parents, just because most Westerners aren’t like that.
The video was very on point in those matters and the reasons behind them.
Good job ^-^
Some reasons to leave my family house are : 1)earning money far away from home due to the nature of my work 2)Starting my own family 3)moving to the property of my family near by my family house free of charge.If it is not the reasons above then leaving the family house is wast of money reasorces energy and time!
I am a 28 year old greek dude that literally all my advances on women has wielded no results (I got rejected/εφαγα χυλοπιτα). I am willing to date a fucking rock at this point.
Wow. The comments. When I was in Athens last year as a foreigner I was dating all the time. Random conversations that became nice company.
Sure. I took them to nice restaurants. But I wanted to go to a restaurant anyway. So no loss for me. Lol
Yes family ties are strong in Greece and they leave the house when they get married ,but the parent’s are there for them when they get their lifes started economicly or with a house to start their lives with we don’t throw them outta the house or demand rental at their 17 . And when people get married we enjoy to go see our parents and give them a chance to get close with the grandchildren, they also help most of the time to raise our children while the parents go to work or take the kids to school and they do it with love because as Greeks say my grandchildren are twice my kids ,i feel that with my own grandchildren that i can’t wait to see them on the weekend and i see that is good with the love they show us .we also take care of our elderly parents by taking them to the doctors or go shopping for them if they are to old to do so by themselves 😊 Leaving the home little later also gives you a chance to raze money to start off a little better with your new family also with your income.
Nothing marrying later, What wrong with getting married in late 30s and early 40s it’s just ridiculous guys getting married so young like in the US